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May 26, 2004 15:38:48 GMT -5
Post by HogRipper on May 26, 2004 15:38:48 GMT -5
If you were looking to buy a catahoula puppy for a hog hunting dog: Where would you go? What would you look for in the puppy? What blood lines would you be looking for? What would you expect out of the dog two years from now? What kind of nose, range, bottom, grit, and speed would you expect the dog to have?
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May 26, 2004 18:10:20 GMT -5
Post by EJ on May 26, 2004 18:10:20 GMT -5
Well .... papers have never meant anything to me ... I have 2 full blood Catahoulas right now. Both out of hunting stock ... my best dog was gotten in the "free" classifieds .. he found his first hog at about 6 months of age.
My female came out of strike dogs on both sides and at a little over 2 ..she is coming along slowly .... she still fits what I need her to do so I bear with her.
IN a dog I want it to be gritty ... med range. My female is long legged with a deep chest and my male is shorter..but still has enough speed an go for me.
I think the importand thing in looking for a pup is to just get one out of PROVEN dogs .... ther is always a gamble..but your odds are better this way.
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May 27, 2004 5:52:19 GMT -5
Post by Douglas on May 27, 2004 5:52:19 GMT -5
Ripper, Before you look for a pup you should know something about the breeder, what they do with their dogs and how many litters they have a year our of their kennel. If a kennel hunts their dogs and has suscess then I might want to look at pups, if they only go to show rings then I want look at their pups. Too many Champion show dogs that can't kind game in the wood unless the handler points them too it. I had a man from a kennel tell me he had 33 litters in the last 6 years, he doesn't have time to hunt, and he markets too pet homes and show rings. In picking out a pup I want to see parents and know how they hunt. Color doesn't matter too me as much as size, comformation, blockie head, and prey drive. I don't always pick out the leader of the pack but I look for willingness to get out and explore, interest in what's going on around it. I also try to stay with some of the older blood lines if I'm getting something new in to go with what I already have. If a breeder is putting two good dogs together they should have the desire, or try too, create a better off spring. Good luck in getting short answers, so much involved.
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May 27, 2004 7:09:08 GMT -5
Post by Douglas on May 27, 2004 7:09:08 GMT -5
Inaddition; I want Catahoulas with long legs, deep chest, and silent on track. In two years I expect to have a great pack dog or good find dog. Always want to have young leaders coming up to take the place of older ones if nessessory. Like med range dogs with good noses, don't have to be too cold because we walk most of the time and try to plan to turn out where hogs might be and not have to walk too far. Catahoulas have ability, know how, and some are good looking and colorful.
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May 27, 2004 7:42:46 GMT -5
Post by admin on May 27, 2004 7:42:46 GMT -5
ive had a few catahoulas that had some hunt in them they have all been solid colors with reg color eye. i have liked them since i first started with the hoggin bug. and i agree with douglas. long legged blocky heads deep chest. and prefer red and tan or black and tan ;D buzz
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May 27, 2004 8:47:18 GMT -5
Post by Brad on May 27, 2004 8:47:18 GMT -5
Im not to experienced in this area but the one that i did have was three colors and had blue eyes. She would bay like crazy in a pen or if you found one in the woods. She wouldnt get out and hunt though no matter what i tried. As soon as there was a bay she was gone but that wasnt really what i wanted. I didnt want a dog to stay at my feet and trip me constantly. Eventually she wound up getting out of her pen and i havent seen her since.
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May 27, 2004 9:32:11 GMT -5
Post by HogRipper on May 27, 2004 9:32:11 GMT -5
My thinking was pretty much the same as far as the build and what not of the dog, as well as not caring about color. What I did was look at the pedigrees of some of the better bay pen dogs and then find dogs further back in those pedigrees that should still have the hunting ability before it was breed out of them. The Rip dog I have has a brack ground similar to the Cutter dog and so does the Bo dog but she has a few more twist. My plan was to hunt and work with the dogs until they are at least three and see if I selected dogs that still had hunt in them then I would know if the had traits that I could breed towards to make a ranger harder hunting dog while keeping the baying strengths in tact. So far the Bo dog has proved to be worthy of further consideration as she has found the majority of our hogs this year and just turned two. The other dogs I don't know yet if they will be able to meet my standards. I have set high standards for dogs and will strive to stick to those standards. Obviously I'm just starting on a long term plan but would like to hear thinking like Mr. Mason's on decision making in breeding and raising catahoulas.
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May 28, 2004 15:23:35 GMT -5
Post by AmyB on May 28, 2004 15:23:35 GMT -5
Is there a lot of deafness in Catahoulas? There is in Dogos because of the white skin. I was wondering if there was the same problem in Catahoulas.
They're beautiful dogs - don't know that much about them and would love to learn more.
Amy B
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May 28, 2004 16:08:45 GMT -5
Post by HogRipper on May 28, 2004 16:08:45 GMT -5
Yeah Amy, it is common in the breed.
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May 28, 2004 18:09:13 GMT -5
Post by Douglas on May 28, 2004 18:09:13 GMT -5
Amy, You have to be careful how you breed, don't want to breed two dogs when both have double meral genes. Too much white, pink noses double blue eyes, with this combination you can get an albino look and have problems with hearing. I try to stay with the darker colors with not much white and some times have solid colored dogs which works well also.
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May 30, 2004 13:47:45 GMT -5
Post by BamaBoy on May 30, 2004 13:47:45 GMT -5
I'm relatively new to hog hunting with dogs, but I've been aquainted with Catahoulas for quite a while. My first exposure was through family who utilized them for cow dogs. The first two pups I picked up I didn't know a whole lot about their background, so I picked one that showed the most get out and explore. He's only 7 months old, but seems to be doing OK. His brother ( who I purchased as a pet for my daughter), seems to be a little slower in picking up, but he is coming along. Both have pretty good size and a deep chest. I also have a 4 month old gyp out of Mr. Mason's stock. This decision was made following a recommendation from a friend who has hunted with Mr. Mason and his dogs. I'm sure I won't be disappointed. By the way Mr. Mason, the pup is doing well and growing fast. Now if I had to look for another pup, I would look for hunting lines, deep chest, long legs. I do like the blocky heads too! In two years I would hope they would be hunting fools! Scott
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Jun 3, 2004 8:16:25 GMT -5
Post by Douglas on Jun 3, 2004 8:16:25 GMT -5
Scot, Your pups mother and father is on the new cover of Bayed Solid, June 2004 I just like Catahoulas, but i do have two Black Mouths, can't tell a lot of differents except color, all likes me.
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Jun 3, 2004 18:25:05 GMT -5
Post by BamaBoy on Jun 3, 2004 18:25:05 GMT -5
Where can I find a copy of that magazine? I'd like to check it out.
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Jun 3, 2004 21:23:34 GMT -5
Post by Douglas on Jun 3, 2004 21:23:34 GMT -5
Scot, Can call and get a copy # 318-932-5937 Bated Solid P.O. box 130 Hall Summit, LA. 71034
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Oct 4, 2004 11:07:37 GMT -5
Post by vikingpimp on Oct 4, 2004 11:07:37 GMT -5
i would try to go to a breeder i knew personaly but if this was not possiable i would network to find a good breeder or go to a hogdog rodeo and they ussally have tons of pups and i know its not as good as hunting but you could see the pups parents working on hogs like i said its not as good as hunting but its better then the parents never seeing any pigs,when i look at a cat pup the first thing i look for is too see if they spook easy or if there shy that seems to be a problem and it comes back to haunt later.skidish dogs dont train as wellespicaly now a days your dogas must be well trained/then i look for affection a loving pup is usaly a smart pup i mean breeding is the most part if you want have a good pup breeding and trainabilty then i go for the looks un like a lot of jerks i love my dogs anot only hunt them but nrver for gett that there my pets as werll and i like a big bodied big headed dog red or black with one glass one reg,med nose.high grit,catchy.silent tracking my dogs must be silent on the trail dog needs to be fast but steady is more importantbut the most important traits are smarts trainabilty and affection with breedingremember affection is so important be cause when pups you make traingb a game then when there a cat e\will do any thing to please his master.and a lot of people dont realize this thats why my so alled wimpy dogs have more grit and hunt in the3m then any mean dog and there tough guy owner
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