Black Catahoulas

[HogRipper]

What do you guys think of breeding toward a line of black catahoulas? I really like some of the black ones that I've seen. I wonder how long it would take for the trait to become dominent in a line of dogs. I'm thinking it would protect the line for the show ring people as an extra plus.

Mr. Mason,
How often do you get a black puppy in a litter?

Just something I've been thinking over and wanted to see what you guys thought.

Thanks

Hog Ripper

[Douglas]

Chad,
My Blue dog has about 25% blacks in a litter, but she's dark blue and black. Darker dogs had blacks more often then lighter dogs, I would say adv. about 15%
This last litter I kept a black with tan trim male, looks like he will do good. Some of the best registered dogs have been black, hunting ability is what matters to me.

[HogRipper]

No doubt hunting ability is priority but I was thinking them being black would help protect the dogs from getting watered down and also be a like a signature for the line. It was just something to think about.

[Buzzer]

how long do you think it would take to breed an all black line or black and tan, that would be cool, leavin in the huntin ability of course. i bet if a few hunters got together in a co-op type of breeding program a line can be stablished.

[HogRipper]

I want raise more than a litter a year and when you figure in the time it will take to turn the puppies into proven finished dogs, worthy of breeding, it will take many years to establish such a line. I just think it would be a good goal to have. Maybe ten years down the road I'd be getting close.

[catNplottman]

Anne Overton from south florida searched for a black line of dogs and have found a pair that breeds true blacks,but they are not popular or sell well in florida..My cypress dog is out of camp a while's black and tan foundation female samanta..She looks like a black and tan hound with merleing on shoulder..And my litter out of red merle male and gray merle female had 1 black out of 8

[Buzzer]

hey thats cool.... got any pics?

[catNplottman]

buzzer what do i have to do to post pics? I tell you you all have awesome site..Chad told me you had catahoula catagory but all of it is very interesting and full of good stuff

[EJ]

All you have to do is have your pics uploaded to the net .... I have been using www.photobucket.com as its easy and very dependable ..... if you use them, you dont even have to do anything special to post them ... just copy and paste the correct link with the code.

[catNplottman]

Thank you EJ have you been in the catahoulas long.?.I have an Aden dog from the old foundation Mollie gyp and a camp a while female from the bay up samantha

[Douglas]

CatNplottman,
I know all the dogs and the owners of the dogs that you are talking about, but what do you do with your dog, show or hunt?
I also raise and train Catahoulas and will be in LA. this week end at a NALC show. I'm trying to produce better woods dogs.
Hopeing to hear from you and check out the web site if your interesting in a Catahoula able to hunt and fine in the woods.

[catNplottman]

well Mr Douglas I have heard a lot of great things about you and have read a lot of your posts..I purchased Aden's Chances are and Camp-a -while cypress from Tim Coatney..Both have been shown but but work in the woods..MAybe not as much as they should cause there are not that many available areas around here..The mother to the pups from chance has not been worked that much but will bay a hog..I have been dealing with my mothers loss and the estate so have not been able to hunt that much but hope to soon..If you would like I could email you pics of tyhe dogs..I met mrs Anne at the chiefland show and talk to her a lot on the computer..She makes most of the events

[Douglas]

Yes, I know Mrs. Anne and like to think she's one of my special friends.
I guess what I'm trying to do is to really make a better woods dog for finding and working in the woods. I do less and less shows now and work more in the wood. I think it takes a special dog to work hard at trailing and winding hogs in the woods.
I have two young catahoula dogs that are black now that I'm working mainly because show people don't want to buy one with out color and to me it where they came from and what they can do. I only breed male and female that are proven woods dogs. Just trying to get a line of dogs that will work for showing but will work well in the wild.
Nature is the judge and hogs aren't in a pen, let the fun begen. Good luck with your hunting and keep in touch.

[HogRipper]

show people don't want to buy one with out color and to me it where they came from and what they can do

Mr. Mason,

That is my point exactly. I think the only way to have real good catahoula dogs that hunt in the woods and improve each generation is to protect them from the show ring and bay pen. Color can't be the decieding factor obviously, but it sure will be if hunting abilities are equal, at my house anyway.

Hog Ripper (Chad)

[Douglas]

Chad,
We all want dog with natural abilitys for hunting but it takes longer to make a good woods dog that uses it nose and finds hogs than it takes to make a baying pen dog.
I have just come in from working three young pups, turned a small pig aloose and then put them on the trail. I had to keep bring them back to the starting point and letting them do it over before one of them finaly got out and found it in the brush. Makeing them use their nose is what I think is important.
When I have an excess # of small hogs I turn one out at a time and let the pups find it, it becomes a game and they look forward to getting out and finding the pig.