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Post by HogRipper on Jun 30, 2004 14:22:25 GMT -5
What do ya'll consider to be a good range for a catahoula to have?
How old a track would you expect a good catahoula to be able to take?
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Post by EJ on Jun 30, 2004 19:09:42 GMT -5
I would expect it to hunt at least "medium range" .... from the time my dog took a track until he barked he was generally under 100 yds ..... there were times he got on hogs and followed the track a LONG way before he stopped the hog that was leaving the scent. If the dog is "trying" and hunting hard ... thast all Id expect ... confidence and drive will sometimes cause them to range farther.
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Post by vikingpimp on Oct 2, 2004 12:22:23 GMT -5
to me a good range is about a 200 to 300 yard range working in tight circels and returning about every5-10 minutes if they dont pick any thing up ihave hat cats that could pick up a trail at least 1 to one and a half hours old and work the hell out of it he was rare though and i did not like at all some cts noses are betterits funnt but true usaly the ones that look more hound like have better sniffers but with todays hunting situations and land getting smaller and smaller plus give that we poach all the time{just catch and release} i choose to tame my dogs noses even further by crossing them with pit witch i personaly think is the best mix in the world you have a dog that can trail bay or catch and you can walk behind and not run you to deathand cats are so wild sometimes that pitt calms them down
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Douglas
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Just do it, if it's Right
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Post by Douglas on Oct 3, 2004 9:44:55 GMT -5
Vikingpimp, This Catahoula board is refer to the pure blood Catahoula and I feel that crossing with anything is loosing the breed. Breed to better wood catahoulas. I strive to stay with the pure blood and make a better woods dog, if I want a running catch dog I have crosses to a bulldog to inprove the bull with a touch of Catahoula blood. But again this is the Catahoula board and not the mixed or cross bred board. Each of us like different things in a dog and I'll always try to inprove the registered Catahoulas with trying to raise and train good woods dogs. Trying to make a good thing better, Good Hunting.
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Post by Buzzer on Oct 3, 2004 11:47:19 GMT -5
"with todays hunting situations and land getting smaller and smaller plus give that we poach all the time{just catch and release}"
i hope you are confusing poaching with catch and release management or talkin bout breakfeast. cause here in tx. poaching is illegal
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Post by vikingpimp on Oct 4, 2004 10:05:26 GMT -5
what i meant by poach in this context is that when you are out huntingand your dogs cross over a properity line they dont know and somes times if they catch a hog before you catch themthats the only poaching i do we call acciadent poaching and its sad cause in a free country a good man would not get mad at anoyhrt good man about that
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Post by Buzzer on Oct 4, 2004 10:15:04 GMT -5
well then your retreiving your dogs from property wehre you dont have permission. not poaching... poaching wheather accidental or not is still poaching.... be careful. best thing to do is contact the land owner or warden and tell them your retreiving your dogs...from said property. just my opinion...
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Post by HogRipper on Oct 4, 2004 10:27:17 GMT -5
You don't improve a breed by breeding to dogs outside the breed. You improve them by culling hard and only breedng the very best to the very best. I'm not against crossing dogs but I am very much against crossing dogs then claiming them to still be pure and trying to represent them as part of a breed which so few of us seem to be trying to improve and protect.
I personally want to increase range and increase nose in the catahoulas that I hunt. I also want to get the bottom back in these dogs. All three things have been breed out of catahoulas because of all the bay pen folks and show ring folks that are breeding for an entirely different purpose, neither of which was the original intent for the breed. I like a dog that can take a 4 hour plus track and will range out as far as necessary to find hogs in the tract I drop them in. If I drop the tailgate it's because I know hogs are there and I want them found. I want unlimited bottom in a dog. I like them to be rough but there are runners that even the roughest of dogs has to run for awhile before they can get them to bay up.
Chad
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Post by vikingpimp on Oct 4, 2004 10:34:06 GMT -5
douglas i do no mean to cross up catahouilas and sell them as reg. dogs or any thing or dishonest or to lessen the integrety of the breed in any way i have been running cats for over 20 years and they are my faveriot dogs i just mean that because they are so verseital that if you need a specialized crossed out dog cats are the best,we have a freind in new south wales and we ship him any where from19 - 15 catahoulas a year and he crosses them with any thing from drey hound pits hounds airdales depending what and where thay are hunting thats all i want is the best woods dog there is and if it means crossing out i willand if you think about there BE NO CATAHOULAS WITH OUT CSOSSING OUT! or a lot of other curs too .plu not trying to be rude if somethig gets of topic a little bit we are not commies or nazis i know you all want us to have a alittle freedom.god gless you and the U.S.A.
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Douglas
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Post by Douglas on Oct 4, 2004 13:40:45 GMT -5
Vikingpimp, I wasn't trying to be rude either, but I see ads. all the time about Catahoulas for sale and one or both parents hasn't even seen the wood and they are selling them for woods dogs. I raise registered dogs that hunt in the woods, I don't cross this with anything. I'll only bred dogs that are proven woods dogs. I could savely say that there are less than 12 Catahoula breeders that have any type of woods dogs. Ane the people takeing registered dogs, and crossing them with anything just to sell pups and stateing that their Dam or Sire is registered is down gradeing the dogs. Good luck with your program and wish you the best, Wasn't downing you or any one, just stating this was the Catahoula board, not the cross bred board.
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